PSOC5LP VDDIO collapsing

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MaCa_301471
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Hello Community,

   

 

   

Before I make the experiment, maybe somebody already has an idea about this.

   

I'm designing an board where a PSOC5LP will be the power monitor/controller and it will also control some of the onboard ICs through SPI I2C etc etc.

   

Some of those ICs will be a on a power domain that can collapse or just be disabled by the PSOC it self (with all the precautions of this scenario), which will also collapse one of the VDDIO domains, where the ICs will interface the  PSOC.

   

Will this affect proper operation on the rest of the chip? Will the PSOC power domain be robust to such scenario? I'm wandering if some ESD protection will allow some current coming from other internal power rails.

   

I could not find any information regarding this... My next step will be experimentation 🙂 

   

Any help will be welcome,

   

Thanks, Marco

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ETRO_SSN583
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The principal concern is that no signal connected to PSOC can exceed

   

its power rails. So as long as no transient occurs that tries to take a

   

pin below Vssd or > Vddd you should be OK. Of course the code base

   

has to handle an interface that is no longer meeting specs. You may want

   

to detect in HW and code that the interface is no longer powered properly.

   

 

   

You also have to be concerned about brownout types of failure, eg. if you

   

have an externally generated logic signal that is connected to a PSOC input

   

pin that it does not "hang" around the threshold point of the CMOS input and

   

initiate large currents thru the totem pole input structure of CMOS. One more

   

reason that PSOC, if it detects low power to external circuits, should shut off

   

completely the external circuits, eg. controlling a power MOSFET to gate

   

power on and off.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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Hey, thanks for the quick answer.

   

What about the collapsing of one of PSOC VDDIO rails itself? Would the PSOC continue to work if no other rails collapse? Would a brownout condition be generated for one particular VDDIO section?

   

Best regards,

   

Marco

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ETRO_SSN583
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What about the collapsing of one of PSOC VDDIO rails itself? Would the PSOC continue to

   

work if no other rails collapse?

   

 

   

Yes it will work fine if you take a Vddio to 0 V, obviously that port becomes non functional

   

for Data I/O.

   

 

   

Would a brownout condition be generated for one particular VDDIO section?

   

 

   

You have to do the detection circuit/code to handle the fault on an I/O port, the PSOC does not look

   

at Vddio to test brownout, it looks at Vddd and Vdda.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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Good directions,

   

Thanks,

   

Marco

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ETRO_SSN583
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Glad to have been helpful.

   

 

   

Regards, Dana.

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RaAl_264636
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Hi Marco,

   

 

   

just one additional note: if I remember correctly, port P12 is specially designed for hot-plugging etc. Maybe this will help you in your design.

   

 

   

Regards,

   

 

   

Ralf

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