10 Replies Latest reply on Jan 22, 2016 4:44 PM by MichaelF_56

    App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows

      We have observed consistently that when our App firmware is built on Windows SDK 2.2.0 (and 2.2.1) there is a tendency to get unexplained disconnects, but when the same App source is built on a Mac OSx platform with SDK 2.2.0 we do not get these unexplained disconnects.. none.

       

      Can someone explain why the behavior is different on Mac and Windows?  Is there some fix that has been made in the Mac version of the BLE Stack that can be retrofitted to the Windows platform?

       

      Also, what is the ETA for SDK 2.2.1 on Mac OSx?

       

      Thanks,

      Eric

        • 1. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
          ANa_2105331

          As userc_7511 has noted, we have been consistently seeing differences in disconnect/reconnect behaviour and battery life between the two SDK's. The Mac SDK 2.2.0 (Dec 2014) behaves differently from both the Win SDK 2.2.0 (July 2014) and the Win SDK 2.2.1.

           

          We did bench-top tests where a fresh battery in a coin cell holder is soldered to the board. The iPhone is kept right next to the board for the entire duration of the test. I ran the battery tests using the same hardware but having programmed the board the first time using the Mac SDK 2.2.0 and then subsequently after the test with the Win SDK 2.2.1

           

          Test 1: Board programmed with  Mac SDK 2.2.0

                    Disconnects/Reconnects: 0 , Resets: 1, Runtime: 79 hrs

          Test 2, Same Board then reprogrammed with the Win SDK 2.2.1,

                     Disconnects/Reconnects:  138 , Resets: 1, Runtime: 69 hrs

           

          Given that everything is similar between the two tests for the board, I would put up the Disconnect/Reconnects as a candidate for the 10 hour difference seen in the battery life.

           

          The Disconnects/Reconnects are when the board quickly disconnects and within seconds reconnects with the app. The reset is where it actually does a complete reboot so there is a reset of the DataIndex which goes back to 0.  I have seen this phenomenon consistently now across different boards ruling our hardware impacts. There seems to be no viable explanation that we can think of for the disconnects/reconnects, but obviously it is costing us in terms of battery life.

           

          The one disadvantage to the the Mac SDK 2.2.0 is if we do a real world test where it often happens that the phone is away from the patch and misses the data transfer, the patch resets consistently, reseting the DataIndex back to 0. It is supposed to at that point write the data to the EEPROM which it does do but almost always resets. However in contrast, in the Windows SDK 2.2.1, it behaves quite well during these instances where it does not reset, maintains the DataIndex and writes to the EEPROM.

           

          I will say this that I have built the SDK 2.2.1 using the (.7z) version in my Mac Eclipse IDE and I see the same behavior of disconnects when I build the firmware so it is not a question of Mac vs Win, it is more a question of the SDK 2.2.0 vs 2.2.1.

           

          Any thoughts or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

          • 2. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
            MichaelF_56

            Checked with the developers and it should not matter whether or not the program is compiled on Windows or OSX.

             

            However, the patches applied to the December version of the SDK as compared to the one released in July of the same year will certainly be different.

             

            If you run a diff/compare against the .7z download of each, then you should be able to see the differences.

             

            Regarding the battery life difference and reconnections, they will probably need to know what application you are using and what it does in order to map which potential patch upgrade is causing the difference in behavior.

             

            ankr_1205151

            • 3. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
              ANa_2105331

              Thanks mwf_mmfae !  Still trying to understand what it is between the two, the diff does show differences but nothing specific that is coming across.

               

              We have a custom board with the BCM20736S running a modified heart_rate_monitor. We have a fine timer interval of 200 msec, we are collecting the data from the ADC at 5hz and transmitting it to the iOS app in a streaming mode.  If the transmission breaks we buffer data in RAM and write to an i2c bus Atmel 512kbit EEPROM.

               

              ehoffman has earlier identified that the reboots were associated with high current draws but by changing the supervisor timeout to a lower number its been stabilized for both SDK 2.2.0 and 2.2.1. The shorter timeout prevents the connection event currents from reaching too high.

               

              The rapid disconnect/reconnects that we see with 2.2.1 as ehoffman noted before are associated with the timeout disconnect (code 08).

               

              -Anand

              • 4. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows

                Hi Eric, we've checked in with the developers again, and there have been other similar issues reported. This will be fixed in SDK 2.2.2, which should be out in around 30-45 days.

                -Lucy

                • 5. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
                  ANa_2105331

                  Hi Lucy,

                  Is there a release date set for SDK 2.2.2.  Our production is stalled right now and waiting for SDK 2.2.2 since we are hoping it will resolve our issues with reboots and disconnects.

                   

                  Thanks,

                  Anand

                  • 6. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
                    MichaelF_56

                    There is not a confirmed release date for SDK 2.2.2

                    • 7. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows

                      Re "Fixed in SDK 2.2.2, .. 30-45 days.."  That would be awesome! Thanks Broadcom!

                      • 8. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
                        MichaelF_56

                        We are pushing to get 2.2.2 into SVK now.

                        • 10. Re: App Behaves Differently when Built w/SDK 2.2.0 on MAC OSx vs. Windows
                          MichaelF_56

                          ANa_2105331 userc_7511

                           

                          WICED-Smart-SDK-2.2.2-IDE-Installer.zip for MAC/OSX has been released.

                           

                          Important installation note related to OSX/MAC and the Trace Plugin:

                          Please follow the steps below to change the sudo configuration for the IDE to install correctly.
                          If you have installed the IDE without changing the below, uninstall, go through the following and reinstall the IDE.

                          1. Open the Terminal on your Mac
                            Command + Space
                            Type terminal

                          2. Type the following in the Terminal
                            sudo visudo

                            Change this line FROM:
                            %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL

                            TO:
                            %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

                          3. Write and Quit
                            :wq

                          Once you have gone through the above procedure and installed the IDE, you should check the trace plugin to verify the IDE has installed correctly.
                          Please check the WICED Smart Quick Start Guide (SDK 2.x and TAG3 Board) for information on how to view traces from your TAG3 evaluation board.

                           

                          "Unidentified Developer" issue when installing this SDK on MAC/OSX:

                          Go to System Preferences -> Security & Privacy -> General tab

                          and you will see a message "WICED-Smart-SDK-2.2.2-IDE-Installer" was blocked from opening because it is not from an identified developer

                          -> Click on "Open Anyway"

                           

                          JaeyoungY_71