1 Reply Latest reply on May 23, 2019 12:12 PM by BragadeeshV_41

    CY8CMBR design rule 4-layer o 2 layer PCB

    thomas.billiou_3905606

      Hello,

       

      I want to use several CY8CMBR3116 in my application

       

      About the PCB design, I use two of your documents, the AN90071 and the AN64846

       

      In the AN64846,

       

      for 2 layer PCB

       

      I can read that the top and the bottom layer PCB have a hatch fill of 7 mil trace and 70 mil spacing, connect to the ground.

       

      But in the AN90071, I can read in table 4-1, page 31, that the top layer have to be 45 mil spacing.

       

      What spacing size I have to use with the CY8CMBR3xxx ?

       

       

      For 4 layer PCB,

       

      there is no indication on the AN90071.

       

      I can read on the AN 64846,

       

      First layer : sensor and hatch fill 7 mil trace and 70 mil spacing connect to GND

      Second layer : only sensor trace

      third layer : GND, (without hatch fill)

      bottom layer : component, com trace and hatch fill 7 mil trace and 70 mil spacing connect to GND

       

       

      Am I correct ? in the third layer it is a full GND, without hatch fill ? is there what I need to do with a CY8C MBR3116 ?

       

      Is the 2 layer better for CY8CMBR3116, or there is no different ?

        • 1. Re: CY8CMBR design rule 4-layer o 2 layer PCB
          BragadeeshV_41

          Hi thomas.billiou_3905606,

           

          Please find my answers to your questions in red:

           

          1. In the AN64846, for 2 layer PCB I can read that the top and the bottom layer PCB have a hatch fill of 7 mil trace and 70 mil spacing, connect to the ground.

          --> It'd be really helpful if you can point me the page no where you are pointing this out. The recommended hatch pattern is top layer  7 mil width 45 mil spacing. Maybe you're looking at old app note.

           

          2. What spacing size I have to use with the CY8CMBR3xxx ?

          --> Please use top layer  7 mil width 45 mil spacing and bottom layer 7 mil width 70 mil spacing.

           

          3. 

          I can read on the AN 64846,

           

          First layer : sensor and hatch fill 7 mil trace and 70 mil spacing connect to GND

          Second layer : only sensor trace

          third layer : GND, (without hatch fill)

          bottom layer : component, com trace and hatch fill 7 mil trace and 70 mil spacing connect to GND

           

          -->Attached is a screen shot from the AN 64846. This is the recommendation for 4 layer PCB

          Top layer - sensor + 7 mil width 45 mil spacing to ground

          Second layer - Sensor traces only

          Third Layer - 7 mil width 70 mil spacing to ground

          Forth layer - 7 mil width 70 mil spacing to ground +PSoC + Other components + Non CapSense traces

           

          I think that you might be referring to any of our old design documents. Please make sure you're referring to our latest and updated design guide. Please use this link below:

          https://www.cypress.com/file/41076/download - Doc No: AN 64846 Rev * X

           

          4. Is the 2 layer better for CY8CMBR3116, or there is no different ?

          --> It totally depends on no of components in the design, board dimensions and cost. If you're not able to route all the sensors in your 2 layer PCB (space constraint due to the recommendation that capsense lines shouldn't go near communication/ LED lines) , it will be advisable to use 4 layer. Otherwise 2 layer will be enough.

           

          Regards,

          Bragadeesh