Does Cypress have a serial nor flash that compatible with EPCQL1024F24IN?

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Hi sir,

   

I am looking for a   serial nor flash to configure my FPGA by AS mode (the FPGA type is   Arria 10 ), Density which I need is 1Gb,

   

Altera has its own nor flash EPCQL1024F24IN, but it is too expensive ,one chip costs about 80 dollars! I want to find a compatible  chip to instead  Altera's.  would you please recommend  a type for me ? 

   

I have found one  chip  S70FS01GS,Dose it compatible with  EPCQL1024F24IN?

   

  the datasheet of EPCQL1024F24IN has been uploaded as the attachment.

   

Best Regards!

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ZhiF_31
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Hi Anbin,

   

You are not the only customers who want to replace EPCS/EPCQ devices with Cypress SPI Flash. Unfortunately, it is not a straightforward drop-in replacement in most cases. However, we have heard many successful cases, especially with 128Mb or lower density devices. 

   

In your case, since you require 1Gb device, it may be a little more difficult, but I would not say it is impossible. You may need to do some customizations in your development environment such as disabling EPCS ID check from the Quartus II tool, making sure your configuration code does not cross the die boundary inside this 2-die stack of FS01GS, etc. 

   

Furthermore, you may try to ask Altera/Intel for technical support for 3rd vendor configuration devices. Depending on your application, they may support you to use Cypress devices. For example, if your application is for automotive, it is likely you will get support from them.

   

In conclusion, S70FS01GS is not fully compatible with EPCQL1024F24IN but if you are willing to customize your design, it may be possible to replace it. If you can spend a little time to do a quick feasibility study on your system, it may be worthwhile. Cypress technical support is also a good resource you may use if you encounter some specific issues while doing your development. You may open a case and we will give you our best support.

   

Best regards,

   

Zhi

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ZhiF_31
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Hi Anbin,

   

You are not the only customers who want to replace EPCS/EPCQ devices with Cypress SPI Flash. Unfortunately, it is not a straightforward drop-in replacement in most cases. However, we have heard many successful cases, especially with 128Mb or lower density devices. 

   

In your case, since you require 1Gb device, it may be a little more difficult, but I would not say it is impossible. You may need to do some customizations in your development environment such as disabling EPCS ID check from the Quartus II tool, making sure your configuration code does not cross the die boundary inside this 2-die stack of FS01GS, etc. 

   

Furthermore, you may try to ask Altera/Intel for technical support for 3rd vendor configuration devices. Depending on your application, they may support you to use Cypress devices. For example, if your application is for automotive, it is likely you will get support from them.

   

In conclusion, S70FS01GS is not fully compatible with EPCQL1024F24IN but if you are willing to customize your design, it may be possible to replace it. If you can spend a little time to do a quick feasibility study on your system, it may be worthwhile. Cypress technical support is also a good resource you may use if you encounter some specific issues while doing your development. You may open a case and we will give you our best support.

   

Best regards,

   

Zhi

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Anonymous
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And for lower density (256 or 512 Mbits) could you have any compatible part?

In the past I found and used replacement part for EPCS or EPCQ, but EPCQ-L are new for me and I am not sure they are easy to replace.

Thanks.

Sebastien

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ZhiF_31
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Hi Sebastien,

The 256Mb and 512Mb Cypress SPI Flash devices are S25FS256S and S25FS512S. You may check out their datasheets online.

As I pointed out in my previous comments, these are not direct replacements for the EPCQ-L devices. You may have to actually test it out yourself. If you encounter any issue, you may contact Cypress technical support.

Best regards,

Zhi

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